Here was his reply:
"Homeopathy is the study and acceptance of the placebo effect as real
medicine. It is helpful, because it is not toxic and the body heals
itself if left alone in the vast majority of cases, and it stops people
from poisoning themselves with drugs.
If you can accept that only the memory of a substance has biological effects and those effects are strengthened with lower (non-detectable) concentrations, (a theory proposed hundreds of years ago in the dark ages of science) then the world could not exist as we know it. I think this thinking stems from people's upbringing to accept beliefs without evidence. The level of evidence needed to believe something as ridiculous as homeopathy would have to be exceedingly high. Such as the case if aliens have invaded us and taken over our government. I would not believe that with just a little evidence, I would need overwhelming evidence to accept that type of fantasy thinking."
If you can accept that only the memory of a substance has biological effects and those effects are strengthened with lower (non-detectable) concentrations, (a theory proposed hundreds of years ago in the dark ages of science) then the world could not exist as we know it. I think this thinking stems from people's upbringing to accept beliefs without evidence. The level of evidence needed to believe something as ridiculous as homeopathy would have to be exceedingly high. Such as the case if aliens have invaded us and taken over our government. I would not believe that with just a little evidence, I would need overwhelming evidence to accept that type of fantasy thinking."
Wow. Not exactly what I was expect. In fact, I wasn't expecting ANY comment on the hpathy. I had asked a question to see if he really was going to be at the next PDSA conference. But clearly, he was so distracted by my 'fantasy thinking' that he didn't answer it.
A couple of people replied... cracking short jokes about the alien comment.
And then I replied with this:
"I do enjoy a good challenge! It may take me a while...but I'll get you that evidence.
I see your point..and raise you a thought: People say the exact same thing to me about water fasting. Even though I've experienced it first hand (and seen others experiences), people don't believe it works.
The same is happening with me with homeopathy.
Of course.. I suppose another problem is people don't have a clue how to use it..and generally speaking, indeed, it doesn't work because they don't know what they're doing. It's like saying Tylenol doesn't work cause you tried using it relieve a runny nose.
But I totally get that the whole idea sounds absolutely preposterous. My jaw dropped in comic disbelief when I first heard about it. "You put something in water... shake the living daylights out of it..then dilute it.. shake it again...dilute...shake..dilute.. WHAT!?" But I tried it anyone with MUCH skepticism.... and now I'm hooked.
To the best of my knowledge, no...science can't explain what goes on biologically...yet. (I could be wrong... I'm still studying music currently.. homeopathy school is next year.) But isn't that the glory of science? Always exploring? Keeping our minds open?
I guess that's my 2 cents."
I see your point..and raise you a thought: People say the exact same thing to me about water fasting. Even though I've experienced it first hand (and seen others experiences), people don't believe it works.
The same is happening with me with homeopathy.
Of course.. I suppose another problem is people don't have a clue how to use it..and generally speaking, indeed, it doesn't work because they don't know what they're doing. It's like saying Tylenol doesn't work cause you tried using it relieve a runny nose.
But I totally get that the whole idea sounds absolutely preposterous. My jaw dropped in comic disbelief when I first heard about it. "You put something in water... shake the living daylights out of it..then dilute it.. shake it again...dilute...shake..dilute.. WHAT!?" But I tried it anyone with MUCH skepticism.... and now I'm hooked.
To the best of my knowledge, no...science can't explain what goes on biologically...yet. (I could be wrong... I'm still studying music currently.. homeopathy school is next year.) But isn't that the glory of science? Always exploring? Keeping our minds open?
I guess that's my 2 cents."
And then someone randomly replied with this:
"You know, there's a reason why it's called "my 2 cents".
Usually it's just a modest expression of self effacement.
But in this case, it's actually very accurate.
What are you going to do? Send everything you can find that pulls the rug out from everything we know about chemistry and biology to Dr. Fuhrman?
Pass."
Usually it's just a modest expression of self effacement.
But in this case, it's actually very accurate.
What are you going to do? Send everything you can find that pulls the rug out from everything we know about chemistry and biology to Dr. Fuhrman?
Pass."
Gah. Haters. I know it shouldn't effect me..... but man it really pisses me off. *sigh* Okay. I'm over it. I went through the exact same thing with water fasting. *facepalm* Why do people have to hate? Oh wait.... cause they're insecure, close minded )*#*)@$(%@!*$*%.
Aaaannnnd now I'm done. :)
I have no idea who this guy is in relation to how you've used him, but I'd be walking fast the other direction from him. There are actually quite a good number of studies on h-pathy that prove its scientific basis. Not the least of which one came from a nobel prize winner. Honestly, I would not waste your time on this guy. You could hand it to him on a silver platter and he wouldn't listen. What matters is you're getting well and it's costing him business (whatever he does). As is usually the case, when you follow the money you find out what they really care about. Yep, this gets my blood boiling.
ReplyDeleteYeah.... He's a MD, though he treats illness through healthy eating and proper nutrition.. which I'm a big fan of. I was taken aback, since he's a fan of water fasting... I kind of assumed he was into h-pathy. Wrong!
DeleteWhatever. He's a doctor on the East coast... he has a website you can post questions to that he (or other doctors on his staff) will answer. It's been helpful, for sure. But my respect for him just dropped a few pegs.... maybe more than a few. :)
He's speaking at the next PDSA conference. And he's a HUGE fan of water fasting for autoimmune disease (me too). I want to go purely for the fact that I want to see everyone's reaction to what he has to say (since it's mainly about the drugs when it comes to treatment)